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Posted: Sat Sep 16th, 2006 05:54 pm |
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One of the biggest reenactorisms I see is, during public hours, people lounging around their camps. When camps where set up, military discipline was routine. Drill was underway every single day. A soldier's life was filled by military order. Every soldier was well-drilled. It's only a small percentage of reenactors that know much about drill. Even marching skills are rudimentary. To be period-corrent, most soldiers, rather than lounging around, should be engaged in some activity. Letter-writing was common, fixing clothes, polishing shoes, brass, rifles was common. Very little sitting around was done except at break times, near the end of the day and on Sunday.
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acwacivilian
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Posted: Sun Sep 17th, 2006 03:21 am |
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So.......
I would think that the whole camp would be a buss of activity and only the Officers would be sitting, maybe going over maps and supplies. Maybe we could get someone to play the part of a paymaster or supply officer and be going over the amounts of food and gun powder for the visitors to see.....
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Posted: Sun Sep 17th, 2006 03:27 am |
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Jeri, I can just hear your voice saying, "so." It is so characteristic for you! (in a good way)
What do you think of the idea of writing up a sheet of camp activities and skits the guys in camp should do for public hours. We would draw them in with loud shouts and other noises, for example. A scuffle, argument or loud drill-master. Guards at the entryway to the camp could warn visitors to, for example, "go over to that arguement over there and tell them they are bad soldiers. Officers, rather than standing around can be inspecting camp cleanliness and orderliness. They could be giving lectures on drill to recruits and other such endeavours. We could be literally slave-drivers of the club, doling out things to keep them moving and not allowing anyone to sit down.
By the way..it still is a bit lonely in here. I wonder how we can entice more club members to start posting? Maybe..offer some inticement.. some lady my want to put up a lantern with a red shade around it at our next even, eh? ;-)
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acwacivilian
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Posted: Sun Sep 17th, 2006 03:49 am |
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NOT ON MY WATCH.... Miss whatever her name is..... well it is not nice to talk about people behind there backs, but really........she needs to dress proper and stop making "sin" so easy. Morals of that time were more important than they are these days. Just look at our children!
Yea.. it would be nice if others would join in, can't force them and I made my last effort on this. I had Mike send out an email to the whole club..Ok. There is nothing else to do. If people don't want to talk about this stuff..
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acwacivilian
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Posted: Sun Sep 17th, 2006 04:00 am |
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I forgot....
Your right, a fight or someone getting a box from home, would make the visit more interesting for everyone. I would make up the box and fill it with items so it could be opened and then "reset" and used again.
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Posted: Sun Sep 17th, 2006 04:38 am |
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acwacivilian
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Posted: Mon Sep 18th, 2006 05:23 am |
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I can tell that people are viewing/reading but not responding to the posts. More than that is up to them. I think that it is great fun and will continue to post and comment. Hey..I am going to talk Leslie Ackle and find out what would be in a "box from home" and get it all set up for Modesto.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18th, 2006 03:20 pm |
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Jeri,
The box idea is ecellent.
cheers.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18th, 2006 03:50 pm |
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"One of the biggest reenactorisms I see is, during public hours, people lounging around their camps. When camps where set up, military discipline was routine. Drill was underway every single day. A soldier's life was filled by military order. Every soldier was well-drilled. It's only a small percentage of reenactors that know much about drill. Even marching skills are rudimentary. To be period-corrent, most soldiers, rather than lounging around, should be engaged in some activity. Letter-writing was common, fixing clothes, polishing shoes, brass, rifles was common. Very little sitting around was done except at break times, near the end of the day and on Sunday."
You are speaking of military camps, right? Civilians always seem to be doing something, and it looks good. The women rarely have idle hands. The family that reads aloud is a great impression - the new (for me) library is very interesting. I've always liked the crafts guild. Haven't the civilians come a long way with Jeri? Give her a big round of applause!!!!!
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acwacivilian
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Posted: Mon Sep 18th, 2006 04:34 pm |
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How nice! Thank you Laura, that makes my day.
Jeri
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Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2006 01:12 am |
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Hi! I did a little intro in the 'New Members' area, not that I'm a new member by any means, but I am new to the forum...
I have good news that I wanted to share. After many years of camping with family and friends in Union Camp, I am finally going to be moving myself to Civilian Town (not that I didn't want to be there in the past, but I was cooking for "the boys" and it was easier to be closer to them). Well, now I have a new trunk and there are rumors of a wall tent, along with more pots and pans, as my client base may be expanding (cooking-wise, not the red lantern...don't worry Jeri). Maybe this should go under "My wife brings too much stuff." lol That will fit as I am getting married next June. Anyway, all the new equipment does not belong in Union Camp, so I'm moving!
My goal, after all the wedding stuff is out of the way, is to do a cook's impression where I will have some of "the boys" come down from Union Camp to buy home-made goods with their hard-earned money. I am planning on cooking meals for them as well as having some "treats" for during the day. I have been talking with them about doing a small impression at the beginning of each event where they get paid, so that they have the "money" to come down and "buy" things from Civilian Town. Maybe they can finally get those smelly shirts washed by the laundresses too! lol Then the money will be recycled for the next event (or gambled away, I don't know which  ).
While I know this is a very lofty goal, I feel it can be easily achieved in small incriments. I am not setting out do any large-scale impression, and frankly, for a while I will be busy finishing my Master's, and so will probably only have time to do this at some of the larger events that I attend, while 'relaxing' at the smaller events. Anyway, I just wanted to put my plans out there in case anybody has an useful tips or recipes they'd like me to try... I've got books and books of recipes, but if anyone has a favorite, I'd love to hear it.
See you all at the Ball!
P.S. Jeri, I love your ending quote.
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Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2006 04:10 am |
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Welcome Rockhound,
It sounds like the guys will be having some good food and making town an interesting place to be. I have some great fun every time I find a new thing to cook. I also have some great ways to make less work and more fun.
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Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2006 07:35 pm |
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Howdy folks, We of the 43rd have our share of loungers. We try to keep them busy with drill and minor camp chores. They are also usually busy loading or cleaning weaopons and getting ready for the next battle. We are usually out early and left to face the enemy alone for the longest period of time so we must pack heavy. Lots of prep. I also make sure that the men take some time to take off their tunics and "Cool off" do nothing but cool off. Drink, eat a little snack after a battle. I am very much aware of their physical need to rest and not push them too hard. I have seen too many boys and men bacl East either in the aid station or taken away to the hospital. Believe me, I am accutely aware of all of their physical condition and medical background. It is important for a commander and his subordinates to know all he should about the people in has charge. It is not all about a fancy uniform and imagined glory. We must watch out for our people and insure a safe and fun event for each and every one.
So, if you see some of us "Lounging about" They may have been ordered to do so.
I would also like to point out that Farb is of great concern. The things that bother me most are those blue tarps hanging out under our tents, soda cans and food wrappers/boxes. We all have to work on these things a whole lot more. Nothing ruins your $1000.00 impresion more than holding a coke can.
Footwear is also a problem. I know it is the worst of all. Not everyone wants to or is able to spend 80-100 odd bucks for period correct shoues after spending 4-5 hundred bucks on a weapon and more for a tent and uniform. It seems to me that shoes are the last thing on the list. Walk down the line of the next foramation you see. I am not as sure for the Union but know for sure of the CSA. We would have to disqualify up to 50% of our troops for footwear if this was a rule. We just need to minimize this as much as possible. We also have to be able to bend with it as well. We do not want to send anyone away becuse his shoes or boots are not correct. However. I cannot see alowing white Bikes or court shoes. That is a bit much.
I believe we have to work on many things but remember who we are. The FRIENDLY club, The ALL INCLUSIVE club.
The best Civil War Reenacting club in California. I still believe that after 12 years and 21 years reenacting.
Best Regards to all
Major Rose
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Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2006 09:39 pm |
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Thank you Ranger_rose,
How about putting a new category on this Forum to help us work on the FARB problem. ?
Sounds like you take care of the guys in your unit. I too agree we are the best and the most friendly. Remember that when someone walks by with the wrong shoes. One step at a time usually gets you there. I got my most comfortable ankle boots at the goodwill for $7!
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Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2006 02:26 am |
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| Oh my dearest acwacivlian, I think your website is wonderful. I just think people need to be reminded its here and how to use it. !!!
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Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2006 02:46 am |
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Yes I quite agree!! "No idle hands!!" Remember that just about everything was made by hand!! Sewing, cooking could take all day, washing-resew the same piece over and over- the public won't know. It is still the Victorian Era reading aloud and letter writing were big pastimes for women.
I could see soldier's lounging more than I could civilians-especially women!
I think it is one of the biggest disservices we do as "Living Historian's" is for women AND young ladies is to sit around. Yes dressing and promenading is fun, but why are you here? (No, no, not to pick up young soldiers.) What is your persona? Please do some research!
I feel that FARB not only relates to clothing and our camps visual affect, but also to how we act and speak. ( I am by no means near being able to speak correctly-it takes much practice- especially to speak in public!)
These are all things we can work on together-it could even be something done discretely in camp.
With kindest regards, I remain your friend,
Mrs. Sedgley
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Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2006 03:06 am |
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I'm sure their is a balance here, but I can understand the "guys lounging". I'm amazed we don't have more "medic" problems-it's extremely physically taxing to "fight" in the heat, and I don't think many of us keep up our physical condition when we are not at an event!
It seems like their could be many "camp life" sceniors for soldiers without marching around, and a great opportunity to interact with the public.
I'm not really familiar with the military camps, but is seems the public has a general idea about the "military" and fighting end of it, but what is a soldier's life in camp like. Washing socks, reading a letter from home, or opening that "box from home." That would generate an emotion or two...
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Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2006 06:08 am |
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I have it!!! Well..... I think I may have a civil war box. While in Washington last week I found a wood box with an address and unit on it. The style of writing looks right. I am having it shipped to San Jose. Now all I have to find the man and the unit he was in.
I will be great to fill it and have someone in the camp get "a box from home".
Jeri
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Posted: Sun Oct 1st, 2006 04:58 pm |
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Jeri, run with the box idea. It's a great idea. Any ways the Civilians can add to the sense of being in the 1860's enhances out club. It's not all about battles and armies, after all.
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Posted: Wed Oct 4th, 2006 04:47 am |
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Well.... I think that I have a box! I added category to talk about original civil war artifacts or antiques.
I am going to put in a shirt and socks and some small cakes (cookies). Any other suggestions? Maybe coffee orTea?
Jeri
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